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some thoughts on the series finale of Dexter below the cut.

But first, was anyone else completely underwhelmed by the SHIELD pilot? It felt kinda flat. I *want* it to get better - if it were anyone other than Joss, I probably wouldn't keep watching, but I probably will, just...hoping. frustrated.


firstly, this is why I *like* being spoiled - I'd seen gifsets on tumblr of Dexter pulling the plug on Deb, so I was sort of mentally girded for it. I would have been a big sloppy mess if I hadn't expected it going in...after all, it looked, for a half a second there, like we were headed towards a happy ending of some sort (not that I liked that...it's a story about a serial killer, that seemed weird to me, but also very TV, so I was ready for an unlikely sunset)

so anyway, I liked the series finale of Dexter, except for the last minute or so. I have no idea about the books so maybe this was a turn towards canon, but it made no sense to me for him to turn out to be alive. I mean, first of all, HOW, after steering his little boat directly into a hurricane.

but mostly, it seemed pointless to me. him dying would have made sense on several levels. he *said* that he wanted to die, so even if he miraculously survived the hurricane, why wouldn't he off himself? or I can see it being true that he would have changed his mind about being with Hannah and Harrison at that point, selfish or not (something that can be argued, really - I doubt Hannah or Harrison would have seen his return to them as selfish)

oddly, him surviving is more depressing to me than his death would have been - after that whole journey of him becoming a Real Boy, he's going to go back to a life of isolation? what is the point, narratively, of that? I suppose if we're going to continue considering him a sociopath, it unleashes him, but can we really consider him a sociopath after everything that happened? can he go back to having no ties, or has it become a habit now, where he'll just get attached to a whole new set of people? I'm not sure which is less depressing, tbh. either he's lonely for the rest of his life, or he gave up a family for no reason.

I liked his suicide because it was, in a lot of ways, both halves of him acting at once. the selfishness and self-centeredness of his sociopathy in not wanting to feel any more pain, despite the fact that it was depriving two people of someone they loved very much; the overwhelming, impulsive humanity of choosing to drive into a hurricane, because the grief was too large to leave room for self-preservation. it was the ultimate resolution of the push-pull at the center of the whole show - for once, both sides wanted the same thing. AND I liked that, however Dexter may have framed it in his own mind, it wasn't self-sacrifice. it was a very selfish, very human choice that really only benefited him.

basically, I'm going to pretend the last bit of the finale doesn't exist. he died - there, I fixed it. sort of like I pretend that Supernatural ended 30 seconds before the end of Swan Song. this actually bugs me a little more - I know what motivated the continuation of Supernatural, but I don't understand where the creative team was coming from with the Dexter ending. if anyone has insight or ideas, please share. I just can't think of any way it makes sense - all I can think is that they were scared to kill off their main character, or came down with a bad case of infectious twist-itis.

Agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Date: 2013-09-25 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carmy-w.livejournal.com
I read at least one review on tumblr that was less than impressed; I liked it, but there were a few things out of sync, though; the Avengers not being at Level 7 security-not even Natasha??
One thing the tumblr reviewer said was that Coulson was too sassy (she's a comic nerd, so her reasoning had to do with comics), but I liked him that way! He turned serious when he needed to, and slid the jokes in like knives elsewhere. Sharp, unexpected knives where you just sit there for a half second before bursting into laughter.

I've only watched...the first year of Dexter, I think; it was syndicated on either the CW, Fox, or our local channel for a while, then went away. So I don't have an opinion either way.

Date: 2013-09-25 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
So so so underwhelmed by SHIELD. Bah.

Date: 2013-09-26 05:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laisserais
I was whelmed by SHIELD. Here was what I thought as it was happening: Gee, I guess Joss has finally learned his lesson.

I don't think what we want from his work is what the network wants. Also, pilot, so going to be uneven. but on the plus side: Coulson! And subverting every single trope and expectation virtually as soon as it was presented! That can only happen in the Whedonverse. So yeah, on the one hand: meh, but on the other, it's the sort of meh you give when your genius kid brings home an A- paper, you know?

Perhaps more will be revealed.

Date: 2013-09-26 08:48 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mskatej.livejournal.com
Sepinwall sums up pretty well my thoughts/feelings on SHIELD: http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-abcs-marvels-agents-of-shield-doesnt-have-the-joss-whedon-magic-yet

My main gripe with this (and with the Avengers movie) is that it's too big a franchise for Joss to be able to do with it what he does best, and tbh I don't give a shit about the Marvel universe (I'm a DC girl at heart). Plus the characters are just not very distinctive - Phil Coulson's popularity baffles me, not because I don't like him but because I literally do not remember him in any movie other than Avengers and that's only because he died in that one and I was all 'oh that's a shame, I quite liked him' and then fandom went mental and I was like 'which one is Phil Coulson again?'. But then, I don't understand it when minor characters in movies gain massive followings (or really movie fandoms in general) because there's so little canon to work with (and you know how important canon is to me). No character particularly stood out to me, even the dialogue felt a bit flat/forced, and having just rewatched the Buffy pilot in which *every single character, significant or otherwise* makes an impact, I just feel like Joss needs to give up the blockbuster life and get back to his roots: low-rated, intimately-scaled genre television. But that's just me. I'll keep watching because I still care about the work Joss produces even if nothing he does will ever live up to Buffy, and hopefully it'll be a grower.

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