thatotherperv: (o. beecherkeller (by meretrix))
So, recently I was cleaning up my hard drive and I came across this random-ass chat conversation with [ profile] madame_meretrix  that I saved, probably to preserve the details of the plot bunny that opens the convo.  It’s full of Oz meta on things like Keller’s supposed drug addiction, what Keller’s game really was in that laundry room, why he killed those dudes, and the dynamics of the Beecher-Keller relationship.  

though “meta” might be a little grand a word for it, hahaha

I also throw like…4 plot bunnies out there that I’ll probably never write, more’s the pity.

Posting because I’m amused enough with our speculations that I wanted to stick them here for posterity.  And because when meretrix and I hash out our personal canon(s), I want to lick her brain.  And because god knows my hard drives all keep crashing.


fannish blathering under the cut, cleaned up for maximum coherency )


May. 3rd, 2009 01:35 am
thatotherperv: (e. telly time (by apreludetoanend))
so, this past Friday was the first episode of Dollhouse where I was really transfixed.

dude, how stellar was Alan Tudyk's performance as the neurotic engineer guy? I Wash was a character that grew on me slowly in Firefly...or at least, one I didn't bond to instantly as I did all the others. so I've never felt a particular affection for that actor, but in this case, my eyes were glued to him.

ramblings about investment in Joss's characters )
thatotherperv: (spike flawed (by vamptastica))
while I'm on the topic of posting and polling and whatnot, something I'm idly curious about when it comes to the opinion of the flisters. I suspect this is one of those things where we all have a strong opinion when it comes to the answer, but interpretations of his character vary.

[Poll #1125134]
thatotherperv: (mickey whore (by vamptastica))
so this is just a little something I wrote up for The Human Condition. in some ways I'm designing that site to be newbie-friendly, and this is part of that. figured I would post it on my journal first, might be of interest to some folks.

if you have any suggestions for revision, you're welcome to throw them at me. [ profile] madame_meretrix already gave it a bit of a beta.

Why Plagiarizing Fanfiction is Very Bad Idea )
thatotherperv: (spangel sunlight deviants (by vampkiss))
[A/N: ok, I posted this a while back, actually, but it was totally dead that day and when, after 5 hours, no one had commented, I chickened out and yanked it down, haha. Which was stupid, but sometimes I’m silly. And then [ profile] icemink told me to put it back up and I’m just now getting around to that.

I’d also like to note that since I wrote this, I’ve read [ profile] peasant_’s essay on the Master which is actually along very similar lines to the points I made here about him, but far more thorough. It’s a good one to check out.]

It’s a pretty universally-accepted concept in fanon that Spike is the renegade of the Aurelius family. It’s sort of secondarily accepted that Angelus was a renegade too, when folks look past his comparison to Spike and remember his conduct with the Master—many times, he’s characterized as the stuffy, traditional one. But I was thinking about the rest of the main Aurelius line (the Master, Darla, Angelus, Dru, Spike), and I was thinking about how they were all irreverent in their own way.
there's an essay under here somewhere.... )
thatotherperv: (db jackpot (by madame_meretrix))
man. so I was watching the first two eps of X-files s1. my brother-in-law and I were reminiscing about the show while I was visiting.

oh, man. first of all, I don't think I've *ever* seen those two eps--the pilot, and deep throat. it was funny how very full of holes mulder's logic is, and you's cute the way all scully's reasonable explanations are half-assed, really. I could argue mulder under the table...hmm...under the table....

we're all a sucker for a pretty face, I guess :)

it's a hell of a lot cheesier than I remember. and it got me thinking know, basically, shows in that genre, *our* genre, are the television equivalent of crack!fic. some people (ie, most of the population) sees it and gives it a big old wtf, pokes at it with a stick, and wanders off in confusion asking themselves who the fuck would smoke *that* crack, and would be *utterly* baffled at the idea that anyone would devote *more* than an hour a week and three brain cells to such a cracktastic piece of cracktasticness. meanwhile, a small contingent (ie, us) looks at it and our eyes bug out, and we say, "pass the pipe, my friend. that's some serious shit. I wanna smoke it all the time! want my firstborn baby? he's cute!"

so that makes Buffy like...crack!tv. our fandom is founded on crack. I, for one, think it's good shit.

pass the pipe.
thatotherperv: (Angel whatever (by scarymime))
I went rock-picking with my sister the other day. We hiked down to this little pebble beach and filled up some backpacks with rocks for various parts of their garden they’re in the process of decorating, and it’s the kind of activity that lends itself to introspective discussion. For us, anyway. We’re introspective people, and very much in tune with one another’s thinking.

And the conversation came back to the nature of friendships and the things we expect from our friends, now that we are, by all accounts, Grown-Ups. And two of the things that we cherish most in friends are 1) a level of candidness that disposes of all polite and decorous bullshit, and 2) a desire to handle your own affairs and not drag third parties into your arguments. Those are pretty rare things to come by, especially in combination, but we’ve been lucky enough to find fucking cool people, over the years, that also stand up to these tests. And *those* are the folks that make it in the long run with us.

It all just circles around to things about fandom that have been on my mind lately.

This is what I expect from my friends (RL or OL) in the event that someone injures my feelings…which isn’t all that easy to do in the first place: I expect them to be willing to listen while I sort through my emotions …I expect them, I suppose, to make sympathetic noises at me…I expect them to feel free, if they’re so inclined, to point out how I’m making my life difficult by viewing things in a slanted or otherwise stupid way…and pretty much, the buck stops there. I actually prefer that people *not* be publicly supportive of my “side” of a problem, because I’m a grown-up, and I prefer to deal with the person that has hurt me one-on-one, and privately. The more people you get involved in a conflict, the more complicated the resolution of the conflict becomes.

snippety-snip )
thatotherperv: (angel say what  (by lit_gal))
sorry for the spammage today people! today was my day for the [ profile] buffyversemeta Metathon. I was a little weasel and took my own topic, thereby prompting me to FINALLY start on this meta series I've been meaning to tackle for a while.

there were supposed to be 2.5 essays but it's probably for the best that there's only know, no one wants to hear me blather on *that* long. I had another one written on vampire nutrition, but it's a little...not layperson friendly right now and it needs to be reworked. so uh...that'll be up...whenever I have time to do that. some day.

Title: Canon vs. Science: the real deal on vampire anatomy and physiology
Author: Mel ([ profile] thatotherperv)
Summary: the beginning of a meta series I’ve been planning…1.5 essays for the purpose of the Metathon. Why science must be a consideration in the practicalities of vampirism (intro to the eventual series). And the real essay: How a feline model can be used to understand some vampire physiology.
Spoilers: let’s say whole series, just to be safe.
Word count: “It’s just magic” is 807 words, “Vampires as Cats” is 3200.

Notes: For those who don’t know me, a little on my background: My career goal is to be a zoo vet. My bachelor’s is in zoology, sort of split emphasis between ecology and pre-veterinary curriculum. I had a sociology minor in college and I have a Master’s in public policy related to wildlife, which is sort of irrelevant for this, but you know…basically, I’m not a total science egghead. I’ve already begun my DVM, though I’m still early in the curriculum. I often see the world through the prism of the life sciences…including canon.

links to the individual essays behind here )
thatotherperv: (jeff)
this essay is part of a meta series on vampire anatomy and physiology. this one in particular was written for the [ profile] buffyversemeta Metathon.

In order to understand this essay, you should probably go back and read my short blurb on why I feel “It’s magic” is not a good enough explanation for how vampirism works in the Buffyverse. Magic and supernatural happenings are a fact of the Buffyverse, but when we’re starting with a human, who has human anatomy and human constraints on what is possible, some science is required here :)

It is Buffyverse canon that vampires have some cat-like qualities: most notably, slit irises in vamp-face and the ability to roar and snarl. It’s popular in fanfic to portray vampires, especially Spike, as being cat-like…they have the grace of a cat, they purr when contented, they panther crawl before they fuck your brains out. This portrayal is so pervasive that vampires being cat-like is sometimes regarded as fanon.

So I thought it was interesting that, once I started thinking through some of their anatomical/physiological adaptations, a pattern of cat-ness emerged beyond the superficial. Though there are probably other cat-like qualities if I think on it, I tackle three here: vision, olfaction, and vocalization.

here kit-ty kit-ty... )
thatotherperv: (angelus dangerous (by amavel_bel))
this is sort of the introductory post to a meta series on vampire anatomy and physiology that I'm starting for the [ profile] buffyversemeta Metathon. there will be others in the future.

why I think anat/phys is important re: Buffyverse vampires )
thatotherperv: (spike flawed (by vamptastica))
so, it has always bugged the shit out of me how Spike's chip might actually work. there's ample evidence in canon that Joss & co didn't give a crap about physiology when they were writing their show, which is fine, most shows don't. but I'm always trying to reconcile it, because when it comes down to it, I think in terms of biology. it's a fundamental part of how I reason out the world, fandom included.

anyway, [ profile] nme0621 is taking Abnormal Psych, and one of her lectures triggered an idea for her on how the chip works. it makes so much sense to me, I'm a little embarrassed I didn't think of it myself :)

ETA: originally I linked to her post, but it's locked. she's given me permission to reproduce the scientific part of her post, and the discussions from comments, in mine. they're under the cut. we seriously geek out to science here, so you you know all my geeky bits. the intersection of biology and canon is love, in my world. obviously.

we are sooooo geeky )

on another, related note, someday I'm going to write an essay on the contradictory evidence in canon as to whether or not vamps make ATP from the blood they consume. yes, I've given a good deal of thought to this, and just when I think I've figured something out, I see something in canon that fucks the whole thing. I know we can write off anything vampire-related as "magic" but that seems like such a cop-out to me. they are inhabiting human bodies that come with certain physiological restrictions, and while the workings of the body are somewhat a miracle that leaves me in awe, it ain't magic. there are practical constraints.
thatotherperv: (spangel sunlight deviants (by vampkiss))
rainy days make me all contemplative, so I blame the weather for my meta-like splooging today :)

A while back, [ profile] madame_meretrix asked if I would be interested in writing a human AU manifesto. Pretty much, I said no. It’s something I have given a great deal of thought to (the value of human AU), ever since I first realized there was a rift in the fandom over whether or not it’s the thing to do. Whether or not it’s still fanfic if you’ve taken away such essential elements of a character.

I thought it was an interesting question, actually, because when I first found human AU, my initial reaction was not “WTF????” It was…fascination and intrigue It didn’t occur to me at the time that it could be a controversial thing. I guess it must have been a good fic, to strike me that way. Then as I poked around more, and found apologetics attached to otherwise excellent fic, I realized from my then-outsider’s perspective that there was controversy over the genre.

I think that was the first time I became aware of fandom politics. Ah, it was a more innocent time :)

I had considered the idea of writing meta on the subject in the past, and I had decided against it. Some politics, fandom or real life, aren’t worth touching, because you reach an opinion saturation point. The lines are drawn and minds are made up, and you might as well let things lie. but this essay has been stirring at the back of my mind for some time now, and it’s not going to shut up until it’s out there. I have some worthwhile things to say on the subject, and it’s a question I’ve been circling around more, because I’m considering opening an archive for well-done Spangel human AU.

The timing of this post probably makes it somewhat controversial, so I’ll be screening comments just in case. But in the end, I think it’s about as controversial as toast (in presentation, at least), and it’s meant to reconcile, not divide.

I’ll strive to say something intelligent.

over-analytic navel-gazing contained herein. )
thatotherperv: (spangel stupid hair (by indigodiaries))
dude. haha. every time I come back to LJ people are more and more frenzied. I feel like we've been experiencing the 10 Plagues of Fandom. kerfluffle and wank and deletion, oh my!

poor, poor abused little fandom. it's been a rough month, hasn't it?

because I've been getting emails up the wazoo about my own locked fic, I take it that some lurkers don't know what's going on. the gist for the lurkers that are clueless )

my two cents for folks who are already swept up in the Great Journal-Locking Dash 2007 )

on to more pleasant matters. I honestly don't care to talk much about the above. it's being talked to death elsewhere, and I think this will all blow over eventually, and we'll all still be here. I hope. I would appreciate it if your comments were more focused on my otp question than the lj headache.

I want to talk about FANDOM, dammit. not the institution, the activity. I want to talk about the reason why we're *here*. so what I wanna know today, is....why your otp? why that one?

I'm not talking about the party line. I'm talking about...why is your otp important to *you*? personally. what about that pairing speaks to *you*?

me first...why *is* spangel the otp for me? )
thatotherperv: (giles monster wtf (by eyeconic))
you know, I consider myself an intelligent person, but there are some things in the world that just make me stare blankly and go..."I don't get it."

The Watchers' Council has always been one of those things.

ok, I mean, I get that they're a bunch of stuffy old men who are sinisterly intent on robbing young women of the birthright of their power and enslaving them for the "greater good" (you're a feminist, Joss, we get it), but the *mechanics* of everything related to the council...I'm fuzzy on.

I should probably say, I was watching Bs5 Checkpoint and I ended up thinking about this *a lot*. haha. I also may have written a fic that was Spike/Lydia the Watcher (the one who wrote her thesis on him) *shifty eyes*

oh, Watchers' Council, how you confuse me. )

and icemink offers some brilliant thoughts on the origin of the early Slayer line, and why *slayers* might actually pre-date and give rise to *vampires* )
thatotherperv: (spangel come to bed (by indigodiaries))
(ETA: this post contains no comic spoilers, but the comments do, so be aware if you're avoiding that we're discussing some specifics)

so there have been a lot of posts over the last few days about the AtS s6 comics (from the interviews with Joss Whedon and Brian Lynch, if you haven't seen them yet). this is probably the only post you'll ever see on my journal about the comics...I'm not at all a comic person. action put on paper bores the shit out of me, honestly. the only graphic novel I've ever enjoyed was Sandman, and there wasn't much true action there.

anyway, the reason why the posts got me thinking despite my aversion, is because I took a glance at this Brian Lynch guy and it seems like I might actually want to check this out, if it isn't coming out of my pocketbook (I am po' white trash, yall)...except I don't want to read anything considered "canon." so then I was thinking about why it is that I have SUCH an aversion to reopening canon. because it's not just a theoretical's *visceral*. and petty. I'm one step short of sticking my fingers in my ears and going LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!

there are multiple reasons. one is a change of medium...I just can't accept it if it's not living and breathing on my tv screen (ha). part of it is that I've read so much beautiful epic post-nfa fic that I cherish, that I don't want someone to take a wrecking ball to those possibilities.

but what I came to is that the majority of the emotional reaction is all about Spangel...and this theory I have. )
thatotherperv: (Angel whatever (by scarymime))
I just got back from seeing The Reaping. firstly, let me say that going to see it in the daytime because I knew I was going alone was a good move. going so early in the day that I was *the only* soul in the showing was ill advised.

but it got me thinking about the mandatory plot twist of movies in that genre...when the device is effectively used and when it goes horribly wrong.

no specific spoilers for The Reaping under the cut, except for the general complaining about where the movie went lame. there are major spoilers for the plot twists of Sixth Sense, Usual Suspects, Memento, The Village, Unbreakable and Signs for those who haven't seen those movies. but I always put the name of the movie up front, so you can stubbornly shield your eyes and skim down past that one.

I've been thinking about plot twists )
thatotherperv: (Default)
so, [ profile] madame_meretrix started this really interesting discussion on a few points in fanged four flashback-canon. you should go check it out. but one of the things that came up, I'd like to pose to the flist to see if someone can explain this certain fanon assumption to me.

I've heard it said more than once that it's a given that Angel created the same family over and over again...from building the fanged four to his team at AI. as MM and I were saying, I can really see the parallels between Angelus/Darla/James/Elizabeth and the Angelus/Darla/William/Dru, but the correlation to the AI team escapes me. yes, he built himself a family with AI...he even refers to them as such directly a few times. he often calls himself Cordelia's family. but it's not clear to me that it's the "same" family as he built in the late 19th century.

Does anyone have any insight into why people might say that?
thatotherperv: (spangel sunlight deviants (by vampkiss))
I'm bummed about fandom the past week, dude. there's so much bad energy flying around, and some of my favorite people appear to have flown the coop several months ago, and things are just slow this week. it's sucktastic, and everyone I've talked to is feeling drained.

but let's not talk about any of that at all. really. not a word. what I want to do is cheer us up.

I want to know 5 things that made you fall in love with Spike and Angel, as individuals. five for Spike, and five for Angel. for those of you who like one and not the other, by all means just do the one you like. but if you love em both, gimme em both.

no physical attributes. we all love James' abs and David's puppy eyes. we know this. I'm talking characterization, people. and also uh...since the exercise is feel-good vibes, no picking on each other's characterization, no matter how wacko you think it is. if you love Angel for wearing stripey socks, I will not remind you that you're thinking of David :D

...oh, I suppose I should kick us off first, huh? ok:

1. I love that he has a sense of humor that no one expects and therefore, that very few people get.
2. I love that, despite knowing he should find Spike's shenanigans completely unconscionable, he still gets a kick out of them sometimes, even though he'd never let Spike know it.
3. I love that even when he was soulless, and even though he didn't believe he was capable of love at all, he loved Darla as an equal and a partner in crime, Dru as a spoiled daughter (no, really), and Spike in spite of himself.
4. I love him as a dad, and everything that went with that.
5. I love that stubbornly, inevitably, he will always be a cowboy at heart.

1. I love that he is so freaking pussy-whipped. but he won't hesitate to conk Dru over the head, and then lovingly settle her against his side as they ride off into the sunset. *snerk*
2. I love that when you get him around Angel, he's 12. in all senses of the age.
3. I love that he's a pathological liar when it comes to his image. how'd you get that soul again, Spike? he's so good, he convinces himself.
4. I love that he's a weeble. *watches him wobble*
5. This is probably wrong of me, but I like his tendency to reach for a bottle of liquor as soon as things go wrong. *snickers* what? I like my fantasy men dysfunctional.

*leans her head in her hands and waits for all of you to share.
thatotherperv: (spangel stupid hair (by indigodiaries))
Oh my god, I wrote meta—you bastards! And what’s more, it was fun! 3am conversation with [ profile] denied_heaven:

Mel says: omg this is so much fun
denied says: lmao
Mel says: how does this really get my rocks off
Mel says: it's much fun as writing porn
Mel says: it's intellectual porn
denied says: wooo
Mel says: gratuitous intellectual porn
Mel says: *fornicates with her mind*
denied says: lmao

I’m a goof, in case there was ever any doubt—but I promise the meta is a lot more coherent than my 3am rambling. So I may have gotten carried away with length *ducks* many thanks to [ profile] madame_meretrix, who was willing to beta my meta (!) and assure me that it's readable for your average bear and didn't make her fall asleep in her soup.

The basic premise of the essay is that Spike and Angel don’t fit classic alpha / beta roles if you are thinking in terms of the old model—which most people are. When you get into the complex workings of a wolf pack as we now understand it, they actually fit quite well. You have to take into account:

  • pack relations are *rarely* violent
  • it’s all about posturing and putting the least amount of energy into maintaining order
  • ’beta’ is not a permanent state of inferiority
  • alpha / beta dynamics aren’t constantly in motion—most of the time, they give it a rest

on to the meta )
thatotherperv: (spikepimp (by eyesthatslay))
ohh, I should be sleeping. or something. but I had too much coffee today (to make it through my marathon histo test), and I have another test tomorrow and I can't sleep, so I babble to you instead. and then I will promptly be passing out. hopefully.

So, I was thinking the other day about how weird some of these kinks are that I’ve picked up in the fandom. Or, maybe weird is a bad label to put on them but uh…not within the realm of what I find sexy in the dreaded Real Life.

So I’ve been thinking…why is it that some of these kinks work for me in fic, when they don’t do a thing for me (or even, in some cases, revulse me) in real life?

pointless rambling and probably TMI back here )


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