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this is random as all hell, but sometimes I think about this. it's been said by me, multiple times, that I prefer not to think of Giles naked. ASH is a different matter, Ripper...I can be persuaded, but Giles...no thanks.

the exception to this is Ethan. I can read Giles/Ethan, past and sometimes present. but here's something I go back and forth on, and I wonder how everyone else settles it in their own mind.

because in my way of thinking, Giles/Ethan is as canon as spangel is. it totally happened. and they totally want it to happen again, whether they'd admit it or not (I'm looking at you, Rupert).

[Poll #1000654]

Date: 2007-06-10 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyghtpet.livejournal.com
I worry for your brain at times. Not because you think about this, but you are SO right, but that you felt the need to do a poll to find out what everybody ELSE thought. It's that important to you.
*shakes head n give you cookies n lurve cuz you're fabulous*

Date: 2007-06-10 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
hahahaahaha. well I don't know if I'd call it *important* but....yeah, curiosity killed the call.

*shakes head n give you cookies n lurve cuz you're fabulous*
heehee, *munches the cookie happily*

Date: 2007-06-10 05:33 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-06-10 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkershadeof.livejournal.com
I chose the first option, I think Ripper was always on top, and Giles still would be.

I think they have sort of the same dynamic as Spike and Angel do, with Ethan being the rebellious 'child' who's secretly only looking for acceptance/praise from his (yes, I'm really gonna say this)... 'daddy'.
You know?

Date: 2007-06-10 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
yeah, I see a parallel. I'm just not sure if I like what I see. hahahaha. but yeah, ethan's got the same acting-out thing going on

Date: 2007-06-10 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkershadeof.livejournal.com
You don't? Hmm... maybe I like it too much. ;)

What would be your answer to the poll then? (And why?)

Date: 2007-06-10 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
well, I answered the poll, but I don't even like my own answer, because I vascillate so much.

I think I have a hard time in general imagining Giles as a top. not that I imagine him as a big ole bottom, and not that I have a hard time at all imagining him being with another man...I just don't know what the hell he is to me. probably versatile, if I had to say. it's just whenever I've read him being all uber-toppy, it creeps me the hell out. something about how it's usually written. like you're trying to cram a foot into a shoe that doesn't really fit. dunno, there's something that feels wrong about it.

so yeah, I don't have any *reasons* so much as a feeling about it, which changes. sometimes I think Ethan would be the top, totally. sometimes I think Ethan topped at first, corrupted Giles, then Giles took over. sometimes I think they never thought much about who was topping one way or the other, it just happened how it happened. sometimes I think it was a power struggle. sometimes I think

fuck, dude, I dunno what I think. that's why I did the poll :)

Date: 2007-06-11 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkershadeof.livejournal.com
Lmao, now I really understand why you did the poll. And now I'm not so sure about my answer either. I could see Ethan corrupting Giles too, but maybe not so much as the top. More in a blowjob-and-stuff way. And then Giles was all 'Grr" and 'Come here you bad boy.' Lol. And there you have the reason I don't write fic. :)

Date: 2007-06-11 06:43 am (UTC)
laisserais: kiss (Default)
From: [personal profile] laisserais
hee!

psst --> butting in here to say that i just took the poll, without looking at anyone else's answers, and i had, like, the exact opposite answer! :P almost down to the phrasing and everything. that's pretty funny. *g*

Date: 2007-06-10 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drusillas-rain.livejournal.com
Ethan just likes to pretend he is ;)



I definitely need a Giles/Ethan userpic!

Date: 2007-06-10 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
hee, maybe that's what's throwing me off!

Date: 2007-06-10 11:04 pm (UTC)
herself_nyc: (Default)
From: [personal profile] herself_nyc
Ooops, I'm an idiot. I meant to choose Giles as the top!

Date: 2007-06-10 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
hee! duly noted :)

Date: 2007-06-11 06:38 am (UTC)
laisserais: kiss (giles - good lord)
From: [personal profile] laisserais
hahaha! oh no, are you writing G/E? eeeewww! :P

hm. if i'm forced to think about it? i'm going with mutual handjobs... maybe a little frottage, but no penetration.

as to who was'daddy?' um, i'm thinking Ethan, actually, and here's why:

when they were younger and hanging out, Ethan totally had more knowledge and fewer scruples. I'm betting that Ripper let Ethan run the show, and any mischief they got up to was at Ethan's instigation... i can even see Ripper being the muscle to Ethan's brain, simply because Ripper was looking for (at that point) a charismatic leader who could reveal the secret mysteries of the underworld to him...

i would even bet that it was Ethan who nutured and helped the Ripper persona to bloom. I'm thinking Rupert was probably raised with good, middle class values, and that Ethan was murkier than him right off the bat.

yep.

Date: 2007-06-12 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
haha noooooo. no no. I was reading a fic where they were a minor pairing, and it niggled at my brain for the thousandth time.

when they were younger and hanging out, Ethan totally had more knowledge and fewer scruples. I'm betting that Ripper let Ethan run the show, and any mischief they got up to was at Ethan's instigation... i can even see Ripper being the muscle to Ethan's brain, simply because Ripper was looking for (at that point) a charismatic leader who could reveal the secret mysteries of the underworld to him...

i would even bet that it was Ethan who nutured and helped the Ripper persona to bloom. I'm thinking Rupert was probably raised with good, middle class values, and that Ethan was murkier than him right off the bat.


OMFG I LOVE YOU. I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU. this is exactly how I feel about them, but I've never been able to put my finger on why I feel as though Ethan was the top. yes yes yes. that's precisely it. I've heard the argument for Giles as top so many times, I was beginning to think I was senile, and disconnected from reality (er...canon. god, the two are not the same thing *bangs head against desk*) completely

*SQUISH*

Date: 2007-06-11 08:33 am (UTC)
shapinglight: (Giles)
From: [personal profile] shapinglight
I went for the switch thing, mainly because I think Ripper would be game for anything, even though he strikes me as very much the dom.

Date: 2007-06-12 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
I think they'd both be game, yeah, haha.

I guess Ripper seems kinda dom to me. *vascillates* I think I just get stuck on Giles. because I just really can't see Giles dom. I don't see him sub either, I guess I just don't see him with any D/s undertones at all. *thinks*

Date: 2007-06-13 07:26 pm (UTC)
shapinglight: (Giles)
From: [personal profile] shapinglight
I just don't see him with any D/s undertones at all.

Whereas I do - oh boy, do I! I can't see Giles subbing for anyone (whereas Ripper might have done it for Ethan just to see what it was like).

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