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I’m not entirely sure where this came from, but it was fun to play with. I was thinking about how flexible orientation can be. There’s the standard convention of “I’ve always known,” but what about those who don’t?

Plus it was a good excuse to play with a bunch of pairings I never use.

Angel is paired with Kathy (as family/friendship), Faith, Ethan, Buffy, Wesley, Fred (er, sorta), Lindsey, Darla, Cordy, and Doyle.

Dunno if I love the title, but I was all out of ideas


Title: There are Many Ways to Love
Author: Mel ([livejournal.com profile] thatotherperv)
Rating: R? more implied sex than actual
Pairings: a whole bunch of them
Summary: human AU. if I was going to give this a summary, it would go something like, "a series of vignettes following one boy's journey through sex and love," but that's pretentious and stupid, so I won't summarize ;)
Warnings: you’re either along for the journey or not. I’m not telling. I reserve the right to inflict angst, but I balance it out with some sweetness :)




The doll was small and peachy-pink and belonged to his older sister, and his mother had shown him how to hold it.

He didn’t really see much point in it—it was a little lump of plastic, and it didn’t really need to be comforted or fed or changed, but after a while, it grew on him. His mother said he needed to practice if he wanted to be allowed to hold the baby when it came, so he did.

Her tummy was already round and tight, and sometimes he could feel his little sister kicking around in there. He liked to talk to her. Mom said she could hear, so he told her everything he thought she needed to know beforehand. Some of it was for her ears only, but his mother eavesdropped and sometimes she smiled like he was saying something funny.

Liam was dead serious. He was trying to prepare Kathy for life in the Turner household. It was a doggy-dog world out here. He wished someone had told him how to keep anyone from swiping the last piece of cake.

Spit worked best, but dad didn’t like that at the dinner table.

So even though the doll was kind of stupid, sometimes he held it and talked to it and imagined what he would do when Kathy arrived. She would be sweet and soft and tiny, and sometimes when he held the doll and thought about it, his chest ached with warmth. His big brother made fun of him for it, but she was going to like Liam better, so that was ok.

She was going to be his. He would take good care of her.



~*~*~*~*~*~*~



Faith lived down the road, Liam had played with her his whole life. She didn’t really act like a girl. He was pretty sure she would kick him in the stomach before she giggled over him like some of the girls in their class.

She was a little weird. Sometimes she said strange things, and she liked to tickle and wrestle a lot, but then again, her dad was weird, so maybe it ran in the family.

Wrestling was fun, although his mom said they were getting to be too old to do that kind of thing. He knew she meant so they wouldn’t do sex stuff. He wasn’t stupid.

He thought she might be stupid for thinking he would want to, though.

Then one day, he and Faith were hanging out down by the river, and it was too cold to swim and too hot to want to wrestle for long, so he pushed Faith away when she tried. They were laying kind of at an angle with their heads close together when she told him he could touch her if he wanted to.

He didn’t want to. He was old enough to know that was a weird thing to say, and way too young to think it was cool.

She seemed kind of hurt that he wouldn’t, and it was uncomfortable. They went home early, and after that, they avoided one another more and more until they weren’t really friends anymore.

Liam guessed she found other boys to touch her. He heard people talk about it, sometimes.



~*~*~*~*~*~



Kathy liked to play dress-up. He figured that pretty much came with being a girl, but sometimes when his mom left him to watch her, she wanted him to play dress-up too.

Which was a different thing altogether. But sometimes he let her.

He wasn’t good at refusing Kathy anything she wanted, and it wasn’t like she was asking him to put on a dress. If she did, he was pretty sure he would have said no.

It was just a little makeup. It would wash off. And it had the added benefit of pissing off Annie when she saw that they’d gone into her room to use hers.

The whole thing did have its downside, in that Kathy wasn’t as good a makeup artist as she thought. She almost poked his eye out with the mascara, and when she got some of that dusty stuff from the brush up his nose, it made him sneeze, and they both laughed.

Lipstick didn’t taste very good, but her aim wasn’t that great either.

When it was Kathy’s turn, he did her makeup for her. He was getting pretty good at it, he thought.

He liked her better without it. He thought Kathy was the prettiest girl he’d ever seen. She’d been perfect since the day she was born.

Sean got home early, and when he found them in Annie’s room, he asked Liam if he was queer. But then Annie came in behind him and screeched about how they’d ruined her life or something stupid like that, so he never had to answer.

He wasn’t sure what he would have said. He didn’t like the question.

He didn’t know the answer.



~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~



Mr. Rayne was the art teacher.

There was something about him that Liam liked. He wasn’t sure what it was, except that Ethan, as he asked to be called, was different from anyone he’d ever known.

Liam felt funny calling him that, as if it were a secret. During class, he still called him Mr. Rayne. All of the other kids would make fun of him for calling the teacher by his first name.

Liam found that he just wanted to be around Ethan. He’d been all over the world, and he seemed like he had so many secrets. The way he spoke was intriguing, and not just because of his accent. He knew things.

Liam was hungry to leave this town. Hungry to hear what lay beyond it.

He made excuses to stay after school. Sometimes they talked. Sometimes they didn’t. Sometimes Liam just enjoyed the rare time for quiet—something he didn’t get much at home in a family of six. The privacy to draw and paint. Ethan said he was talented, and that embarrassed him as much as it pleased him. His father said his drawings were a childish waste of time.

When Ethan smiled at him and joked with him quietly, it made him feel warm and nervous. He liked the attention, and he always wanted more.

Then one day, Liam got up the nerve to show Ethan the sketches he had done of him. His heart was pounding, and he was scared he would think they were terrible, or that he would tell him it was a weird thing to be drawing.

When Ethan smiled, his stomach fluttered strangely. And then Ethan touched him. He never had before, and it was something Liam had noticed because it always seemed as if he were on the verge of doing so. Leaning over his shoulder or standing close, arm nearly brushing Liam’s or hand resting on the back of his chair. He always got close, but they never actually touched.

But that day, he did. He put aside the sketches and stood close, and they were nearly the same height because Liam had been growing, and Ethan brushed the backs of his fingers over Liam’s cheek. His thumb stroked along Liam’s jaw, and Liam didn’t breathe or move or do anything but stand there, letting Ethan study his face.

He could feel the gentle, humid puffs of air on his face as Ethan breathed. It made him want to lean forward, but he stayed still.

And he blushed when Ethan told him that he was not only an artist, he was a work of art.

Then Ethan carded his fingers through Liam’s too-long hair, pushing it back from his face, and drew away, and the moment was over, and so was the day.

Ethan took care to never touch him again, but sometimes, Liam could feel his eyes. Like a caress of their own. It never failed to make him nervous, in a happy way.



~*~*~*~*~*~



Buffy Summers was golden and enchanting. That was the word Liam used in his head, although Sean would tease him forever if he found out. She was outgoing and liked by everyone and funny in a quick way that Liam never would be, although sometimes he said things that made her laugh. She was dainty. She made him feel big and clumsy and like his feet were too big, but also like he could protect her.

Even though he supposed she wasn’t a girl that would really appreciate the idea that she might need protecting.

She was so pleasing to look at that sometimes he thought he’d been wrong all along. Kathy hadn’t been the prettiest girl ever born after all.

The first time they kissed it was heaven…he couldn’t imagine anything better than this. Sure, it was a little messy and she kept pulling back like maybe he was choking her with his tongue, but her mom was away and her dad didn’t live with them, so they kissed for hours and he was pretty sure he got better at it.

And it was nice. Soft and warm, and she smelled good, and when they lay down and sort of rubbed against each other as they kissed, it was…more than nice.

Liam was feeling hot and uncomfortable when she said it was time for him to go. That was the first time he actually masturbated. The church might say it was wrong, but the priests probably didn’t have girlfriends that kissed like Buffy.



~*~*~*~*~*~



Wesley…liked him. Possibly in a gay way according to everyone at school, and Angel was supposed to be freaked out by that. And he was, but maybe not for the right reasons.

He didn’t mind Wes. Mostly his crush or…whatever it was…consisted of following him around, sucking up, and offering to do things for him. They weren’t even sure the guy was gay. He was from England, so maybe he was just…being…English. Or something. They didn’t really get a lot of foreign guys around here, so nobody knew.

Angel honestly didn’t think he’d have a problem with it at all, except it made him…feel stuff. Things-he-was-going-to-have-to-confess kind of stuff. But if it weren’t for that, he wouldn’t mind. Wes was smart…and funny, even though nobody realized it. Angel thought he was funny in kind of the same way as him.

He was a little lame, but if anything, that was cute. Angel knew he was lame too, even though he’d kind of been accepted by the in-crowd somewhere along the line…without really meaning to be.

Wes, however, was not ever destined to be cool by association.

Then one weekend, Angel showed up at this party out on the Harris property and Wes was there, watching them build the bonfire like it was a safety hazard for a bunch of drunk teenagers to set something that big on fire outdoors…which it was, obviously. That was the whole point. But Wes didn’t understand stuff like that, and Angel was pretty sure he had only shown up in case he would be there.

And somehow, later that night they ended up off in the field somewhere, far away from the bonfire where everyone was congregated, making out. Angel may have been a little tipsy. But he didn’t think that had anything to do with the fact that it was so good. Wes was all hard and muscley (which he hadn’t expected, in Wes) and when Angel pressed him into the ground and got rough, Wes just moaned and fisted his hand against his t-shirt, pressing between Angel’s shoulder blades like he wanted him.

It was rough and exciting, and Wes seemed to like it when Angel manhandled him, so he was a little confused when he was pushed onto his back.

It all became remarkably clear when Wes unzipped his jeans and began to give him his very first blowjob.

Wes…was definitely gay. And it was safe to say he’d done this before.

And it was also safe to say that Angel was officially gay. Or bi. Or something.



~*~*~*~*~*~



Cordelia Chase dazzled him. Or maybe the phrase was that she blew him away. Like a curvy, sexy cyclone. They lived in the same dorm and she was a Business major.

It suited her. He’d never met a woman so fixated on quarterly revenues.

Angel was just in the School of Design, but all of his friends were really into politics, and they all thought they wanted to change the world. Or maybe save it. They thought capitalism was hell-on-earth or something, so Cordy didn’t really fit in. Everyone thought she was a real bitch.

But Angel liked her. She lit up his life and she fascinated him, and he would have been very lonely that first year without her.

It seemed kind of natural when they slid from friendship into something more.

They fooled around a lot before they ever had sex, and it was nice. She had a great smile, and an even better laugh. He kind of wanted to draw her. Her body was lush and pleasing to the eye and so wonderfully feminine. He didn’t know if she would ever agree to pose for him, so he never asked—as vain as she was, she was also modest, in her own way.

Then it was time for them to have sex. He’d never done that before, which she teased him about—called him a closet romantic—and he didn’t tell her that he’d just never been…all that interested. He was beginning to see that there was a closet involved, but maybe not the one she was thinking of.

It all became apparent soon enough. You couldn’t fool biology...and you couldn't really hide it, either.

It hurt her a lot, though she pretended it didn’t. It wasn’t until she swore to never speak to him again with mussed hair and tears in her eyes that he realized she’d been in love with him.



~*~*~*~*~*~



So it turned out Angel was gay. Which was fine with him, except his mother wouldn’t listen and kept trying to set him up with women.

He made a lot of good friends that way. Fred was a lovely girl. If her gender had matched her name, they could have been in business.

But it turned out Fred had a brother. Lindsey was a short, ornery, deceitful, annoying little shit.

Angel hated him. The feeling was mutual.

The first time they fucked, they were both so drunk the only evidence they had in the morning was a used condom and a sore ass—Lindsey’s, clearly. But then it happened again, and they both remembered it well enough to feel compelled to try it a third time, to make sure it hadn’t been a fluke.

The next thing they knew, they were moving in together, though neither of them knew who had asked whom, or why they thought this was a good idea…and when had they started dating, anyway?

Angel realized later, counting months on the calendar in a fit of masochistic moroseness, that they had been together in their unofficially official way for a year and a half when Lindsey brought Darla to bed with them. Angel had agreed because he’d read somewhere that these were supposed to be the experimental years, and because she was the first woman to get him hot in recent memory, and because he and Linds hadn’t fucked in a month.

A week later, Lindsey was gone. Turned out Linds was bi, and he wished he was straight.



~*~*~*~*~*~



Angel was pretty sure he was the only sober person in all of Galway.

He watched suspiciously as Kathy walked by with a plastic cup of amber liquid. “Kat.”

Instantly she went limp with exasperation in that way only a sixteen-year-old girl could. And boy, was she sixteen. “Liam.”

He quirked a brow and held out his hand, and she grudgingly handed the beer off to him before stomping off.

A voice behind him broke in with a thick accent. “Now that was just heartless. What’s the harm in a little public intoxication, I ask you?”

“The harm is that she’s six—” Having turned towards the strange interloper, Angel stared at him and blinked.

Pretty.

The man’s eyes smiled along with the rest of him. “I dunno, man, she’s old enough to see over the counter, so she’s old enough for us. Let er have a little fun.”

Angel couldn’t help the way his eyes wandered down and back. “Says the only other guy here who’s not weaving on his feet.”

The man rubbed the back of his neck and smiled wryly. “Yeah, well as it turns out, there is harm to drinking for me. They’ll thank me for abstaining, believe me. But you’re only young once, yeah?”

Angel’s mouth tipped up in a tentative grin, eyes finding Kathy again. “That’s my point. I remember what I was doing at her age after a couple beers.”

The man laughed. “Too right. But for god’s sakes, it’s a family reunion!”

Angel shrugged non-committally and they watched the young boys orbiting around Angel’s little sister. Some of them were friends of the family…some, he didn’t think he wanted to know. Relatedness didn’t matter much where hormones were involved, especially if you’d never met.

He side-eyed the man standing next to him, who was also taking note of the dance that was being played.

“On second thought, maybe sobriety’s for the best. Shameless little currs.” He turned and offered Angel a hand. “Francis Allen Doyle.”

It was dry and warm and fit nicely in his. He might have retained it a moment too long. “Doyle.” He tried to remember if Doyle was one of their surnames, but the family was just too big.

“And you’d be Liam, yeah?”

Angel blinked. He had no idea why this guy knew who he was. “Yeah. But most people call me Angel. Are we…. How are we related again?”

“Oh, t’rough marriage. My wife is your second cousin.”

“Oh.” His sinking disappointment warred with relief that he wasn’t actually lusting after blood kin.

“Though I should say, ex-wife. She hates when I forget the ‘ex’ part. Been divorced t'ree years, you’d think it’d be habit.”

“I’m sorry.”

“Don’t be. I’m not.” There was an awkward silence as they looked out over the party—Angel watched his mother stumble and laugh as his father caught her, so drunk himself that he barely kept them upright. He shook his head with a laugh and sipped the confiscated beer. Doyle suddenly spoke again as if he’d never stopped.

“We parted ways amicably enough. Turns out I like men.”

Doyle was watching him with a knowing expression, and suddenly Angel wondered if he’d been set up again. At least his mother’s taste was improving.

“You don’t say.”


end.


A/N: in the first section, the phrase “doggy-dog” is a deliberate mistake. when I was a little kid, I really thought that was how the saying went. *g*

Date: 2007-05-07 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-spikeaholic-x.livejournal.com
Aww the Faith one is cute. Silly Angel for being so dumb. Lol
The end of the Buffy one cracked me up. "The church might say it was wrong, but the priests probably didn’t have girlfriends that kissed like Buffy." Hahaha
Poor Cordelia. That sucks for her.
But you did a great job on all of them! As much as Angel with another guy grosses me out, the ending on the Doyle one is hilarious as well.
Great job :)

Date: 2007-05-08 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
haha, well, faith was offering herself up for all the wrong reasons, so it's actually for the best that he wasn't interested.

The end of the Buffy one cracked me up. "The church might say it was wrong, but the priests probably didn’t have girlfriends that kissed like Buffy." Hahaha
you can't argue with a teenage boy's hormones :)

and yes. Cordy got theeee short end of the stick. finding out your boyfriend is gay because he can't get it up? that sucketh.

thanks!

Date: 2007-05-08 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlpire.livejournal.com
oh, that was wonderful! so glad you emailed me the link, or i'm sure it would have ended up lost somewhere on my flist which i never check, and i wouldn't have seen it at all. i loved it. to be honest, i rarely read human aus, but yours are the best because even though the characters aren't themselves, they're always themselves. i especially loved faith here (poor girl! all tough but you could tell she'd been through some shit) and wesley (total dork until he was suddenly hot and demanding, a la season four) and doyle (so friendly and perfect!).

oh, and your angel, of course, was excellent. :D

Date: 2007-05-08 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlpire.livejournal.com
ps. as perfect as this is - and i forgot to mention how much i adored the whole lindsey relationship - i'm a little surprised that spike didn't make an appearance. you feeling alright? :P

Date: 2007-05-08 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
glad you liked Lindsey. I was highly amused.

bwahaha. yeah. one of the points of this was to play with pairings I don't often (or have never) touched. so poor Spikey was left out in the cold. I thought about throwing him in, but then Angel would really want him, and it would foil all my plans for an Angel/Doyle ending :)

Date: 2007-05-08 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
thanks sweetie! I thought you'd enjoy it, and I know you don't check your flist anymore.

to be honest, i rarely read human aus, but yours are the best because even though the characters aren't themselves, they're always themselves
that's a great compliment. I appreciate it.

yeah, Faith...man. that poor girl. that one actually hurt me. lot going on there. and I love Wes. Angel/Wes is like my new slash-crush. and doyle, he does not appear in fic enough, imo.

oh, and your angel, of course, was excellent. :D
hee! coming from you, that is much appreciated.

Date: 2007-05-08 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quinntzadok.livejournal.com
This was lovely. You're just about the only author that regularly tempts me to read human AUs, and pairings I had never given much thought too. :) Though, I will say it was the summary that snagged me fast. The sections with Ethan and Cordelia were particularly good, especially Ethan telling Angel he was a work of art, and Cordelia's mussed make-up followed by Angel's sudden revelation of her love.

Well done. Thanks for sharing. Gave me something to read between coughs. ;)

Date: 2007-05-08 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
You're just about the only author that regularly tempts me to read human AUs, and pairings I had never given much thought too. :)
aww, thank you! I always take that sort of thing as a huge compliment. I'm glad you liked my non-summary. I couldn't think of a single way to sum this thing up that did not sound cheesy as all hell.

The sections with Ethan and Cordelia were particularly good, especially Ethan telling Angel he was a work of art, and Cordelia's mussed make-up followed by Angel's sudden revelation of her love.
I *loved* the ethan one. to the point of being overly enamored with my own little snippet. I wrote it and just stared. I write a lot of dirty older/younger kink, but just that one touch and bit of praise, knowing he couldn't do more? (because in my head, Liam was pretty darn young there) man. I think that's the hottest bit of older/younger I've ever done. as for Cordy...I'm glad you liked the moment when he realizes she's in love with him. I love her character so much, she's got all these defenses.

sorry you're still sick, hon. :( glad I could distract you though.

Date: 2007-05-08 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denied-heaven.livejournal.com
AHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
that was awesome
they were all so
them lmao
all his relationships, perfectly
i was soo not expecting doyle lmao
i love it though, perfect
*dances around*

Date: 2007-05-08 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
hey babe, thanks. I'm glad you liked it. this was really cool cuz it was all these pairings that I never touch *coughLindseycough* hahaha

I looovvve Doyle. he doesn't appear enough in the fandom.

Date: 2007-05-08 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkspace99.livejournal.com
Oh, I was a little sad that Spike didn't show up but then you did say that these were all pairings that you didn't usually do. =)

This was a great story. I felt bad for all the ppl that Angel did not get together with and hoped that they found somebody else. Also, the Angel/Doyle is sooo sweet. They make a great couple.

Date: 2007-05-08 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
yeah, I got a little spangel in everything I do, but not this one.

I felt bad for all the ppl that Angel did not get together with and hoped that they found somebody else.
ah, yeah. such is life.

I'm glad you liked it! I love Angel/Doyle!

Date: 2007-05-08 03:10 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Well, when I say I can read Angel/everyone, I never thought it would be in the same fic...
That was beautiful, really. I love how you used canon here, it feels very natural.
The first one was adorable! The Faith story, sad but felt very true. I think my favorite is Ethan's: there is so much that is left unsaid, and yet we can feel it...
Congrats.
Marie

Date: 2007-05-08 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
hee, I love fics that are Angel or Spike / everyone! basically, I like my fandom slutty :)

thank you! I'm glad you liked the way canon was mixed in. and you picked my favorites!

I think there was some other comment you left that I meant to answer and I feel like I didn't. now I can't remember what it was, so uh. yeah, sorry. haha.

thanks!

Date: 2007-05-08 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh don't worry about it! I just made a very short comment to correct the name «Holland Manners» in I Burn. It didn't need an answer.
But thank you for thinking about it.
Marie

Date: 2007-05-08 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
ah, yes! and thanks for reminding me again because I meant to go back and change that. I dunno where I got mathers from. thanks.

Date: 2007-05-08 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com
Found this while skimming links for the Herald -- it was delightful. Really well done! Thanks for the fun, steamy read.

Date: 2007-05-08 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
ah thank you! I'm glad you liked it :)

Date: 2007-05-08 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jans-intentions.livejournal.com
That was a little piece of heaven to read this morning.

Date: 2007-05-08 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
aw, thanks hon!

Date: 2007-05-08 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash-carpenter.livejournal.com
That was so very...engaging. The innocence running throughout, gently slipping into some slight jadedness (and doesn't it happen to the best of us?) but retaining the pervading sweetness... Wow. Sorry, that was a little garbled, but I hope you catch the drift.

None of these are pairings that usually catch me (apart from Angel/Lindsey - and I'm gonna forgive your Lindsey bashing this one time!), but they were beautifully done. I can't even pick a favourite - all of it had such a realism: the slightly damaged girl who finds solace in sex, the inadvertently teasing girl who fires up her boyfriends, the slightly geeky misunderstood lad with a crush, the college girl devastated by unrequited love... It's all just life, and you captured it brilliantly.

Kudos, hun.

Date: 2007-05-08 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the mix of innocence and cynicism and sweetness. I tried to make it...we all know people like these, you know? in a way, I feel like there's absolutely nothing remarkable about what Liam goes through, and I like that. so I take "it's all just life" as the greatest compliment :)

it wasn't my intention to Lindsey-bash in this fic. I like Lindsey a lot, though I don't read Lindsey-fic very often. I think he partially comes off in a harsh light because this is from Angel's perspective, and really focuses on his experience more than any of the other characters. also, there are just some men who don't *want* to be attracted to other men. I'm not even putting a value judgement on that, because it's their own sad life. and people hurt each other...that time, it just happened to be Angel who was getting hurt.

Date: 2007-05-08 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eurydice72.livejournal.com
I saw this rec'd on the Herald and had to come read, both because of all the pairings listed and because you thoroughly enchanted me with that Spuffy au I read of yours. I loved it so much, I promptly sent the link on to my biggest Angel-loving friend.

What I love about your writing is how *real* it all feels. Reactions are genuine, even when they're not pretty.

And the line about Lindsey being an annoying little shit thoroughly cracked me up. Kudos. :)

Date: 2007-05-08 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
thanks so much! I'm so glad you enjoyed it, and I appreciate you reccing it to others :) also always happy to make someone laugh

What I love about your writing is how *real* it all feels. Reactions are genuine, even when they're not pretty.
that's a very lovely compliment. thank you!

Date: 2007-05-08 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelstoy.livejournal.com
Oh, that was just the perfect treat after a crappy day of work!!!!!!

You have an amazing talent for writing!!

Date: 2007-05-09 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
aww, yay! glad I could help :)

thanks sweetie.

Date: 2007-05-09 12:02 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] entrenous88.livejournal.com
Oh, these were very touching, with great funny moments interspliced in the lot of them. Poor Cordelia. Yum to Wesley and Angel's first blowjob. And yay for finally working it out right with Doyle at the end!

Date: 2007-05-09 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
thank you! I'm glad you found them touching and funny. unrequited love is teh suck, but teen!boy blowjobs? ....well, those are teh suck too, but this time in a good way *snicker* I *love* Doyle
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Date: 2007-05-09 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed :)
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Date: 2007-05-09 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
thank you! I lurve the A/D
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Re: I really enjoyed this

Date: 2007-05-09 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
ain't he cute when he's all uncertain? I'm so glad you liked it! I adore Doyle.

Date: 2007-05-09 03:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laisserais
lol, i'll tell you secretly, i only read this because you wrote it. ethan? het? eep! lmao. but you took care of me and made it not only painless, but awesome. i loved the structure you used, how it's all interior and narrated until the last bit. it was almost like a fairytale. and i liked how you used phrase structure and repetition to create kind of a lulling thing, and marked where we should pay more attention... like it's a lesson he learns or... building blocks of his character.

this was very sweet, and there are some great little subtle things going on, that reveal a lot about a character, like ethan's not touching him, or cordelia's surprising modesty.

i loved how you describe angel's friends in college and his perceptions of their politics, lol.

this was really awesome. i loved the tension in the final scene. i felt his disappointment and relief, and the pacing of the reveal of doyle's availability was perfect.

Date: 2007-05-09 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
hee, thanks sweetie. I'm glad you gave it a shot and I'm glad you liked it. I'll always take care of you, baybeeee *said in a schmoopy voice*

I wish I could pretend that any of my stylistic choices here were conscious. they sort of all occurred to me afterwards like, oh, well that worked out well. haha. *shifty eyes* so yes, I did it all on purpose! go me!

thanks sweetie. I tried to mix in some subtle things that Angel wouldn't really understand the significance of, but we would. I had a lot of fun playing with these characters and his experiences.

is it surprising to anyone at all that the ethan bit was my favorite? haha. somehow I managed to hit all my own perv kinks even though nothing at all actually happened. I just love that we can infer that Ethan kind of thought about it, before he ended up being a good boy. cuz I never specified ages, but in my mind Liam was like...14 there. but you know. he looked older, cuz he'd had a growth spurt, and ethan's not a good guy anyway. *shifty eyes*

I'm so freaking wrong. I shall use the appropriate icon.

glad you liked the college thing, and Doyle. I lurve him. *hugs*

Date: 2007-05-09 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brunettepet.livejournal.com
This was wonderful. The evolution of Liam is natural and each scene captured another piece to the puzzle. The anticipation for the new baby was palpable, and I laughed at this perfect kid thought: "Spit worked best, but dad didn’t like that at the dinner table."

I loved the heart squeezing erotic tension between Ethan and Liam. I found I was holding my breath as soon as Ethan touched Liam and I didn't let it out until the end of the scene.

Liam's observations of Wes' prissiness were delightful. Wes was a figure of fun, all prim and twitchy, right up until they're making out in the field and Liam's getting his first blow job. You turned that scene on its ear without missing a beat.

Liam being captured by the lushness of Cordy was really lovely, and that last line was heartbreaking.

This made me laugh: "Lindsey was a short, ornery, deceitful, annoying little shit.
Angel hated him. The feeling was mutual." Falling into a relationship with a deceitful little shit is never a clever idea...

You captured Doyle's voice and I could see the last scene playing out in my head. I love how Kathy shows up in the last scene to spell out that this has all happened to Liam in just sixteen years.


The scenes with Kathy, Faith, and Buffy were all beautifully written, too. This was a joy to read.

Date: 2007-05-09 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
aww, thank you! I'm so pleased you like it, because I really favor this one.

you picked out a lot of my favorite stuff here. I loved writing Liam as a kid, and that's totally how I see Wes. the Cordy thing, I think is wonderful and horrible, and I suspect Lindsey wasn't *quite* as bad as Liam thought first off to be with him for a year and a half, but lmao, yes.

the ethan scene. man, that's my favorite. I'm glad I got that kind of reaction, because that's what I was going for.

you know what's *really* funny, is I didn't pick up on it circling back to Kathy till you said that :D

thank you! your fb made me smile :)

Date: 2007-05-10 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyghtpet.livejournal.com
Oh MAN that was awesome.
*finally got to read it* lmao
And NOWWWW I can go read the giftie you sent me *licks lips*
This was awesome. Seriously. I loved watching him grow up, the warmth in my chest, the confusion, and Lindsey the BASTARD *whispers* dun tell Casey I said that, *snickers*
And wow, no Spike! The spangel girl is fulla surprises, lmao
And Doyle. Ahhh Doyle. *squishes*
*squishes you tooooo*

WOW THAT WAS EXCELLENT

Date: 2007-05-11 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxneon1981xx.livejournal.com
You're a talented writer.i don't know what to say.i love the faith and buffy one.but the doyle was my favorite.
he was one of my favorites on angel.the way u described lindsay made me laugh in ur other one.thanks for the read.

Re: WOW THAT WAS EXCELLENT

Date: 2007-05-12 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
thank you so much! I'm really glad you enjoyed this :)

Date: 2007-05-14 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
somehow I never replied to this, or my comment didn't stick.

*smooch* glad you loved it!

beautiful

Date: 2009-07-02 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shatteredlovers.livejournal.com
wow it was so well written and you're description of them all is really spot on. Poor Faith though you kind of got that damaged feeling about her even before she derailed in buffy. And loved Cordelia's bit, and Buffy's and oh gosh I just love all of it

Date: 2009-09-28 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bella240.livejournal.com
I adored this fic. Sweet, touching, hot, painful and so many emotions of growing up. One of my favourite au Liam fics.

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