spn canon questions

[thatotherperv]

ok, so I may have a tiny itty bitty spn gen bunny that I'm not at all committed to write, haha. *is vague* I haven't been able to write a damn thing, truthfully, in weeks, even though I've wanted to.

but I have a spn canon question related to said bunny, since I'm not as obsessively familiar with spn canon as buffyverse. two, actually.

1. I know it's common fanon that John Drank, and I can see it being one interpretation, but what's the canon evidence for that? I know in the pilot, Sam makes some wisecrack to Dean about dad probably being on a long weekend with jose, jack and john and he'd come back eventually, but that's all I can think of. I don't think (?) we've ever seen him drunk in a flashback. but I don't remember if the boys have made other references.

2. you know how timelines exist for fanged four pre-canon to track all the references and flashbacks of where they were since 16*mumbletymumblety* when Darla was turned? has anyone ever put together that kind of obsessive timeline for the Winchester's pre-canon travels / backstory? partially because I'm a geek and like being accurate, partially because if I could glance at it, it might refine the bunny a little further.

*snogs flist*

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Best timeline I could find was at the Winchester Journals http://winchester-journals.net/info/timeline/timeline.php

[thatotherperv.livejournal.com]

oh, thanks!

[laisserais]

yeah the winchester journals is a good source, as is the supernatural wiki: http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

yeah, they have their own wiki. haha! spn fandom rocks.

also: omg spn plot bunny! eeeee!

and i think that's all there is for canon suport of john as an alcoholic, but i could also be totally wrong.

[thatotherperv.livejournal.com]

*snogs* thanks

dude, you totally have to check out 1more_sickpuppy's theory on John and drinking. it rock-diddly-ocks

your icon both amuses me and squicks me. and also, are bunnies industrious and dedicated? come to think of it, I think the primary emotion elicited is confusion. hahaha.

[laisserais]

haha, that's what i'm about: confusion. ;)

the bunny icon and this one comes from that project colbert did with amy sedaris... um, i forget what it's called. it's not strangers with candy, but the other one.

[brunettepet.livejournal.com]

Was it Wigfield (The Can do Town...)?

[laisserais]

hee! that's it! i was all: something to do with hair? and a place? hairtown? no...

thank you!

No facts, all theory

[1more-sickpuppy.livejournal.com]

You know, I can't really see canon John as ever being a drunk around his kids. He's too disciplined and military, which is the way he copes with raising them alone in a world full of nasties. He's very responsible, though to "normal" people it would seem it's often in the wrong ways.

I think of John as incredibly emotionally repressed, and therefore, I'd buy it if he did go on a rare bender weekend alone, once the boys were grown, but telling them he was hunting. They can figure it out though, hence Sam's comment.

Not that John was teetotal, I'm sure he and Bobby might have shared a few glasses on quiet nights. Maybe if John had found the YED and killed it, then he might have become lost without that goal..? Anyway, I enjoy all sorts of corruption of canon in fic, so.... wait! What are you doing having gen bunnies??

Re: No facts, all theory

[thatotherperv.livejournal.com]

oh, I *LIKE* your theory. I like it, I like it! in fact, I might adopt it as my own personal canon :)

I know! wtf, haha. not even a little shippy, though it does deal with father-son dynamics between john and the boys.

Re: No facts, all theory

[1more-sickpuppy.livejournal.com]

:)
*feels clever and useful*

Actually I do read a gen story every once in a blue moon, and for SPN, father-son dynamics would definitely be on the top of my list of subjects.