thatotherperv: (s. dean/yorkie (by fullonswayzeed))
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it's your sandbox. it's totally your sandbox.

but fandom poured some sand in there and then played with it for four years. it's kinda grody now. certain admirable souls add fresh sand every now and then but I'm pretty sure some raccoons and neighborhood cats have been pooping in there for years. you could get worms. they could migrate into your eye. trust me on this, I'm a professional.

get out of the sandbox. srsly. you have like. construction equipment and shit over there. you actually do this for a *living*. so if you've gotten the teen!Dean and we're-AU-nope--just-kidding-it's-amnesia tropes out of your system, let's just pretend that never happened.

I'll forgive you, as long as you promise never to do genderswap or hooker!ep or...I don't know, god help us, a crossover where Alec is Dean's lovechild / clone and Manticore is the brainchild of Azazel.

plz to be writing our show, not our fanfic. it's beneath you (and yet, ironically, there are others that have done what you did better)



...no, it doesn't make me cranky at all when they do that. why do you ask?

Date: 2009-03-29 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovely-lady-j.livejournal.com
i am SO glad to know that someone else (ok. several someone elses) finds this more frustrating than fun.

c'mon, show. seriously. you're supposed to be following this GRAND ARC, with oh so HIGH stakes, and yet you continuously get distracted by shiny objects and trying to impress the popular crowd, and as far as i can tell, all you're doing is UNdoing the tension and urgency you claim to have built. either bring on fight the apocalypse, or get off the pot.

and plz to be writing our show, not our fanfic. it's beneath you (and yet, ironically, there are others that have done what you did better)? exactly.

Date: 2009-03-29 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
*clings to you in a world gone mad*

I know, dude, I was like a pig in mud at the beginning of the season and still am whenever they WANDER back over to the main arc but other than that, they're making me nuts. don't get me wrong, I don't want *every* ep to be about that, because then I think my head might explode, but it seems like the lighter / more case-related eps between could be...better. somehow. less. schizophrenic in context, you know?

your icon. *happy sigh* that man makes me happy low down in my tummy. yes he does.

Date: 2009-03-30 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovely-lady-j.livejournal.com
less schizophrenic in context

I think you've nailed my frustration with that. They probably can't keep running along the ARC full speed for 20+ episodes, and need a few lighter one offs to balance the angst and pick up new viewers and shit. I'm a sucker for the original MotW formula, and I'm pretty confident that they could bring the humour, and have their AU-flashbacks-that-teach-Dean-a-lesson one offs and hyper-stylized episodes, and still stay on point. It just takes a bit more effort.

Sera et al.: every time you make an episode that does not push the narrative in someway , then you are essentially telling me that the stakes are NOT as immediate as I think "apocalyse" might imply. Either the seals are breaking, Lucifer/Lilith are coming, and they ought to be stopped, or not. You can't be meh on this one.


oh, and the icon? [personal profile] madame_meretrix made it for me. apparently my default smoking JDM was not helping with the not smoking... the pics that keep surfacing are doing something amazing to my girly bits.

Date: 2009-03-30 12:58 am (UTC)
laisserais: kiss (jdm - famous blue rain coat)
From: [personal profile] laisserais
ohai! damn the latest pics are hot, huh?

it's super hard to remember that these interruptions are totally status quo for tv seasons. it's SO frustrating in the moment. but then - guarantee you - we'll go back and rewatch and it won't seem like these digressions are so huge. it's weird like that. but yeah, right now? ARGH

mel - it's interesting what we presuppose about fanfic vs. canon, huh? because i'm with you, they should knock it off, but WHY are they doing it, you know?

like. is it to piss us off? include us? or because they ARE us? O_O

Date: 2009-03-30 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovely-lady-j.livejournal.com
hmm.. good question, madame. there's a wee part of me that likes being in on the joke.

Date: 2009-03-30 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
hahahaha, you make us all stop the smoking!Jeff AND THEN YOU TAUNT US WITH HIS HOTNESS. bad meretrix. :P

btw, you know my favorite thing about that picture? my ABSOLUTE, FAVORITE thing? he is a 40yo man who wears a giant emo skull ring like a 14yo boy who just bought his first spiked collar. \o/ oh Jeff. never stop being who you are.

yeah, and I know we totally had this convo before. they're probably trying to wink at us but it just makes me cranky. *pouts resolutely* they touched my teen!Dean, kar. they touched him in the bad place. (*snickers*)

Date: 2009-03-30 02:08 am (UTC)
laisserais: kiss (jdm - pretty)
From: [personal profile] laisserais
I CUT THE CIGARETTE OUT OF THE PICTURE

or i almost did. sigh he's such a fucker. and totes. even looking back to a year ago, he's gotten MORE punk rock. at FORTY. O_o i bet he's a total nightmare of a boyfriend. haha

Date: 2009-03-30 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
hahaha. yeah probably. but we knew that already. he's gotta have massive issues. I sorta love him for that.

Date: 2009-03-30 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
then you are essentially telling me that the stakes are NOT as immediate as I think "apocalyse" might imply
YES!

hahahaha, poor meretrix. I have a little bit of a kink for Jeff smoking, but I like meretrix's lungs where they belong. I suppose I like Jeff's lungs where they belong too, but he's less of my concern, haha

and yes, the new shit is AMAZING. gah. GAH. *FLAIL*

Date: 2009-03-30 02:09 am (UTC)
laisserais: kiss (sweetness)
From: [personal profile] laisserais
smooch

Date: 2009-03-30 01:28 am (UTC)
yourlibrarian: Angel and Lindsey (Default)
From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
*g* Do you need to update my essay?

Date: 2009-03-30 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
hahahahaha. yesssss. I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment of that post. it's made of awesome.

it was funny because this has never really been an issue for me in the past, but I told meretrix that when they threw us back to teen!Dean and it was so similar and yet OFF from fic I love, it was like I was watching a porno made about me masturbating, without my permission. hahahaha. gen fics about the family pre-canon are sort of sacrosanct to me (which is probably why I've never written one, oddly enough), so seeing it being brought to life was like. squicky. in the extreme.

so I think that opened the door to me getting twitchy for this ep. I wonder if it would have bugged me if that hadn't sort of sensitized me to it.

Date: 2009-03-30 02:23 am (UTC)
yourlibrarian: Angel and Lindsey (Default)
From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
Yeah, there's been more than one episode this season which has dipped its toes where fanfic has previously tread. Some of those were just following a logical development given past canon, but this next episode? Looks like it could confront the whole issue head-on.

Date: 2009-03-30 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
oh LORD, I haven't seen the spoilers for this next episode. now I'm scared. email me and tell me what it is, haha (I don't want someone to get accidentally spoilered here)

Date: 2009-03-30 02:46 am (UTC)
yourlibrarian: Angel and Lindsey (Default)
From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
Oh, I don't know any spoilers either, just what was in the trailer for next week (which can sometimes be deceptive as to the actual content of the episode, so who knows). It just had me thinking that there were authorial roads not taken behind it.

Date: 2009-03-30 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thatotherperv.livejournal.com
haha ohhh. I always dl my spn these days, so I never see the trailers. mayhap I should hop on the youtube and see what's what

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